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    February 25, 2014
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i wish i had your brain, mark cuban. >> yeah, whatever. >> been great to talk to you. your book "how to win at the sport of business" and "shark tank" airs on fridays. mark cuban, remarkable ban. that's all for us tonight. good night. good evening. new calls to stop the bill that some say protects religious freedom. two former republican presidential candidates weigh in. supporters of the bill are avoiding us. interest groups won't come on this show to defend it. and this young boy is at the center of a medical mystery. his battle with a crippling disease and spreading fear throughout the country. is amanda knox's ex-boyfriend turning on him? what he's saying what she did shortly after the murder.
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we begin with the growing backlash to the bill in arizona. mitt romney now joining the calls against it. he tweets, veto of this is right. he's against it, so are john mccain and jeff flake. so are big corporations. with the super bowl coming to phoenix next year, governor brewer has the nfl to worry about. local business leaders are calling for a veto. so are the crowds outside the state capital where we're joined with the latest. is there a feeling, miguel, that the business interests, that they are having a big influence? >> reporter: this is probably having the biggest influence on this. the governor has heard from every business in this state. the biggest concern for them is the uncertainty that this bill inserts into their workforce, saying employees with a deep religious belief could sue their
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employer for offers abortion services. so the business community applying an enormous amount of pressure. >> governor brewer is back in her state. any idea when she's going to make a decision? >> reporter: it sounds likely that tomorrow she will take the day to talk to legislators, business leaders, the gay groups, to talk to chose who support the bill and then we expect that on thursday she will come up with a veto of this, as everything we are hearing. she will take that opportunity to talk about the things that have been said about arizona during this debate nationwide. >> miguel, appreciate. since this erupted into a national controversy, supporters have been reluctant to come on. but one did last night.
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here's some of what we talked about. >> if somebody is fired, a boss doesn't like some guy on their staff or woman on their staff because they're gay or lesbian, because they're fired for that, which is legal, is that discrimination? >> you know, you're trying to distort a religious freedom bill and -- >> sir, you're roughing for governor of the state of arizona. you're going to be governor of gay and lesbian people and say if a gay and lesbian person is fired for being gay, that's discrimination, you can't make that leap and say yeah, that would be discrimination? >> i don't know of any case like you cited. >> i want to give you one more opportunity. if somebody anywhere in america is fired because they're gay or lesbian and that's the reason they're fired, because somebody doesn't like them, is that discrimination? >> i'm against all
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discrimination and i want maximum religious freedom, sir. >> you can't answer that question then. i gave you the opportunity. >> that's my answer to you. >> well, that was his response, it wasn't an answer. however, his colleagues have been more reluctant. so we went randi kaye to phoenix. what have you found out there, randi? >> reporter: anderson, it's been a challenge trying to get anybody to talk to us here at the state capital. there's been so much backlash here, so nobody wants to touch this thing. but take a look at what happened today when i tried to get some lawmakers to so you can to me about sb-1062. >> no comment right now. we're waiting for the governor. >> reporter: we came from new york to see why you voted the way you wanted. >> we have great weather and spring baseball is here. >> reporter: i here you're the
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man who gives great quotes. we're going to caucus, too. give me 30 seconds. >> my 1:00 is here. i'm very late. >> reporter: 30 seconds, just tell me why -- please, sir. can i just ask you why you support snit >> no, thanks. >> reporter: what do you make of all the attention it's getting? >> i think there's a lot of misunderstanding. >> reporter: want to explain, set the record straight? >> i don't. but i appreciate you offering. >> reporter: you have nothing to say at all, sir? >> it's interesting how no one wants to talk about people who support it. you were able to grab a minute with the author of the bill. what did he say? >> reporter: we tracked him down and asked him if he had any plans to talk with governor brewer or meet with her before she made her decision. this is what he told me. the indications that we're getting is that the governor may very well veto this. anything you want to say to the governor? >> the governor i consider a
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dear friend of mine. i will take the opportunity to communicate with the governor when she gets home and try to persuade her to sign the bill. >> reporter: what will you tell her? >> basically what the bill does, what the bill doesn't do, and that it has been extraordinarily distorted as to the whole struggle that it's been made up to be, when it's not really about that at all. will i be successful? who knows. >> reporter: anderson, the senator told me he doesn't expect the governor to wait until friday or saturday to make her decision. he thinks she'll make that decision as early as tomorrow. but anderson, i want to share with you one more exchange i had earlier today with representative soppy berelli. we were finally able to talk. you've declined an answer and i haven't asked a question. have you tell me why we need
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this bill? >> it strengths existing laws. >> reporter: can you stop for one second? >> no. >> reporter: one quick question, a straight answer on why you need it here, what does it change? >> you know, the sword swings both ways. what about this scenario, you have a gay person that owns a printing shop, okay? and swb from the westboro church comes in there that they print the sign that a printer is not going to agree with. should that group, that religious group demand that print shop print that thing? do they not have a right to say, get out, that's offensive? >> reporter: and with that, he hustled right back inside the back entrance of the capital building. >> andi, thank you very much. let's big deeper now on the legal question that he raised at the end of that interview. joining us once again, kenji.
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the governor said the church goes to a gay-owned business in arizona, demands they print up some leaflets for a demonstration. >> yeah, so what's interesting about that is first of all, if the gay printer is holding himself out to the public sphere, he would have to print those. and if not, there could be a claim brought against him for discrimination. so they could be refused even now without 1062 passing by the religious printer. >> also in that analogy, the gay group is not a religious group, so they can't argue if this law passed, they couldn't argue on religious grounds that they wouldn't print up the stuff. >> exactly right. what's striking about this is nobody except for at the very end, i thought it was telling that he used an example of gay people because nobody is willing to say the word gay in defending
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the bill, because you had an entire interview where you tap dance the word gay. if you go to him and ask why he proposed the bill, he was very, very up front about saying it was a situation in new mexico where a photographer was forced to take photographs of same-sex marriages and weddings. >> she was sued in new mexico because she wouldn't. >> exactly. >> but you're right, early on, a lot of lawmakers were pointing to what happened in new mexico as the reason. you don't hear people pointing to that anymore. >> exactly. with regard to we weren't on notice about this or this has been distorted, the legislative hearing is on line, so i would encourage people to google arizona legislature and you can type in sb-1062 and watch the proceedings and time after time people are raising that this will have anti-gay consequences. >> for lawmakers, you're saying
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if they listened to the proceedings, they would have known. >> yes, this came up over and over again, and democratic senator after democratic senator came up and talked about that. >> i want to play one exchange we had last night with senator melvin. he's running for governor of the state of arizona. he says he cannot -- he knows of no example -- there is no discrimination in the state of arizona that he could come up with no specific example against religious groups, which is what this law is designed to protect. but he says there's no discrimination at all in the state. let's play that. >> with all due respect, sir, i don't know of anybody in arizona that would discriminate against a fellow human being. no christian or anybody that i know of. >> i know people in new york that diskrcriminatdiscriminate. >> discrimination doesn't exist
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in arizona? >> no discrimination based on gender or sexual orientation. sounds like an incredible place. >> i watched that exchange and he invited you afterwards to take your bags to move to arizona. >> i like arizona. it's a great state. >> i thought, okay, this is not a theoretical question, so i went and dug into the data to see how many charges, the equal employment opportunity commission. in 2013, there were over 3,000 discrimination complaints filed in arizona. >> just in one year? >> yes. and in new york, it was slightly higher in new york, but if you think about the fact that new york state has three times the
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population. i think you should stay here, anderson, rather than go there. >> i appreciate you doing the staech on that. whether it's the threat of losing business for the state, the condemnation of fellow republicans, or all of the above, a number of arizona lawmakers, republicans who voted for the bill are now saying they wished they voted against it and will tell the governor to vote against it. i spoke to one of those senators earlier today. senator, you now regret your vote for this bill. you plan to talk to governor brewer about it. why do you regret your vote? >> it went through really quick. no one really had anything telling me don't do it. several of us talked, we thought, you know, this isn't good for the state. but no one had said anything and we thought we'll vote for it and had no idea it would be a reaction like this. but we made a mistake and the
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good thing about it is now we know how to fix a mistake and that's what we're trying to do. >> i've got to say, it's rare for any person in public life, particularly political life, to say they made a mistake and to be public about that. so i think that takes a certain amount of courage to say look, i made a mistake, i regret this. it's interesting your description of the process. i know one of your republican colleagues who is also against the bill says you were uncomfortable with the bill last week. what about it made you uncomfortable? >> umm, you know, it was do we really need it? when you get into religious freedom, we're getting into something that's a pretty sticky wicket, and what it would do could be interpreted different ways. i didn't interpret it would be affecting everyone like it has. we just didn't do that.
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i thought it was like friday morning. we started seeing all the e-mails and everything show up on our desks and constituents calling and businesses started calling. that's when it went viral and took a life of its own. it's too bad for arizona. i just hope the governor gets back here and vetoes it. she said last night she was going to do the right thing. >> i saw some of the debate that occurred when the larger body was debating this, and there were a number of democratic senators who were saying about the negative impact this would have on the gay community. did you hear those arguments? what did you think of them at the time? >> you know, in the debate, yes, i heard all that. but in the debate you hear arguments every day about this one's wrong, that one's wrong, and i believed that that kind of fed into my position that now when i look back on it, they were right in what they were saying. i have friends in the democrat caucus, they were warning me.
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but you know, that was only the democrat caucus was saying something. no one came to me before hand. >> so you believe looking at it now that it would discriminate against some people in arizona? >> it has that ability, yes, it could be. i've talked with a lot of people about it. and they're going, well, what about going in the restaurant, what about doing this? the way it was described originally is it's like no shirt, no shoes is, no service in a restaurant. well, it could be interpreted differently, and it's too vague in saying who is it going to affect? i can see now where people are concerned about it. >> we'll know by the end of the week. senator pierce, i appreciate your time. >> let us know what you think on twitter. coming up next, herman cain weighs in on the bill and our
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keeping them honest tonight. the people behind sb 1062 don't want to talk about it. our curiosity was piqued by senator melvin, talking points that sounded like they were coming from the same page. listen. >> this is not a discrimination bill. this is a religious freedom bill. >> this bill is advocating for basic freedom. >> it's a very narrowly tailored bill to protect people's religious freedoms. >> there is a kind of talking point quality to those words. it goes far beyond that, though. it extends to the language in similar legislation on the table in states across the country. here's the meat of 1062 in arizona. "exercise of religion means the practice of or observance of religion, including the ability to act or refusal to act in a manner substantially motivated by a religious belief whether or not the exercise is compulsory or central to a larger system of religious belief."
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here is hb 376 in ohio. "exercise of religion means the practice or observance of religion. it includes but is not limited to the ability to act or the refusal to act in a manner that is substantially motivated by one's sincerely held religious belief, whether or not it's central to a larger system of larger belief." it's almost identical language, and that's no accident. sb 1062 and hb 376 and legislation in other states all share the same legal genetic code traceable back to a number of christian conservative special interest groups in the case of 1062, an outfit called the center for arizona policy, another called the alliance defending freedom didn't just push for the bill they also helped write for the bill much that's what representatives from both organizations tell us. neither organization would come on the program which is kind of hard to understand why. it's not like they're keeping it a secret. during the testimony surrounding 1062, an adf representative was perfectly open about his organization's push for religious restorations acts
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nation-wide. >> we have been heavily involved with both federal and state rfra. we provide testimony across the nation to states that are considering rfra or considering amending rfra such as arizona is considering with senate bill -- >> so keeping them honest, there's nothing illegal or improper about advocating a position. everybody does that or providing legal guidance and advice or ghost writing services to lawmakers who might not have the expertise or experience in crafting legislation that will stand up to legal scrutiny. the question is why keep it a secret? that's the thing we can't quite understand. more now on fallout with my conversation last night with arizona senator al melvin. we got into religious basis behind the bill from former presidential candidate herman cain linked to it on his face book page. anderson cooper is either completely ignorant about this man's bill and about the teachings of jesus or he is just plain lying. what a disgraceful rant this is.
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as for calling it a rant, the entire interview is at ac360.com. you can go there, judge for yourself. as for the role in religion, there are a lot of different interpretations to the bible, many different perspectives. tonight we're joined by a leading cleric in the state of arizona, the most reverend roy mendez of the episcopal church in phoenix. >> as some people's faith are supporting this bill on religious grounds you're opposing the bill on religious grounds. why? >> well, we feel that this bill actually flies directly in the the face of our religion. one of our core values as christians is to love your neighbor as yourself. this bill is seeking to under a guise of religious freedom, it's seeking to give people license to discriminate. that doesn't love your neighbor as yourself. >> but why should somebody -- supporters of the bill say why should somebody of strong religious conviction be forced to interact or work for somebody
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who they disagree with on religious grounds. why should somebody of strong religious faith who is opposed to homosexuality have to interact or work with somebody who's gay or lesbian if they feel doing so goes against their faith. >> well, we believe that we are to seek and serve christ in all people, loving our neighbor as ourself. what we're also supposed to do is to respect the dignity of every human being. we offer every single person we know, whether they are from our religion, a different religion, a different race, a different sexual orientation, we owe them our dignity and respect. we make that promise at the time that we're baptized, and we need to live as fully into it as we can. >> i talked to a state senator who supports the bill last night who said that he believes that christianity, religion, is under
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attack in the united states. do you believe in arizona that christianity is under attack? do you see examples of that? >> i saw that interview, actually. and no, i do not see any evidence whatsoever that christianity or any other religion for that matter is under attack. we are blessed in this country that since from 1783 when the first amendment was enacted, we're blessed for the fact that we have freedom of religion written into our bill of rights and our constitution. this has been something that has been over 200 years implemented in this country. and to now have a knee jerk reaction to write a new law ensuring religious freedom, i think it's a bit short-sighted. because what we have currently works. and religion in this country thrives. >> and you're saying free do. of religion in the state of arizona is already protected under existing laws, both federal and state. >> absolutely. and the reality is that many
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people of many different faiths practice their religion freely here in the state of arizona. there is no need for additional laws. >> what do you say to somebody who says well look why should a wedding photographer be sued because they don't want to be associated with a gay wedding? they don't want to be doing something that promotes a same-sex marriage based on their faith? >> the reality is that many people do business with many people whom they don't know all that well. but from a faith perspective, again i go back to we are to proclaim god's love and to treat everyone with the utmost dignity and respect. because if we can do that, we can recognize god in the presence of other people, even people we don't know. and we can see a presence of love within them. >> and yet the supporters say this isn't about discrimination, this is about stopping discrimination against people of faith. but you say clearly discrimination is at the core of
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this. >> i think that the intent of the law is to allow people to discriminate, yes, i do. and that's why i'm opposed to it. >> are you hopeful that governor brewer will veto in? >> i'm hopeful that governor brewer will veto sb 1062. i would like to hope that other people who may have voted for it as legislators are now against it. >> dean troy mendez, i appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you very much. as always you can find more on the story and others at cnn.com. if you want to check out that whole interview with the senator from last night that's at our website, ac360.com. tonight dick cheney rips into president obama over proposed defense cuts. he's not the only conservative voice blasting the plan. what do the numbers really show? true politics tonight. a mysterious polio-like illness striking kids in california leaving some paralyzed. doctors are stumped, parents are terrified. dr. sanjay gupta joins me ahead. contact lenses, ask about the air optix® contacts so breathable
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>> i've obviously not been a strong supporter of barack obama, but this really is over the top. it does enormous long term damage to our military. they act as though it's like highway spending. you can turn it on or off. the fact of the matter is he's having a huge impact on the ability for future presidents to deal with future crises that are bound to arise. it's driven by budget considerations. he'd much rather spend the money on food stamps than on a strong military or support for our troops. >> over the last 24 hours, the alleged dangers the proposed cuts become a talking point on a lot of conservative blogs and television obviously. >> and we start with a fox news alert. defense secretary chuck hagel plans to shrink the military to preworld war ii levels. >> the administration is without question seriously compromising our security, our strategic flexibility. >> i think these cuts are too
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draconian. >> i think the budget's terrible. >> they don't want to get entangled in another war which no one wants. but we don't get to predict what the the next battlefield will look like. >> what the president has tried to do, the budgets that they send up to us is lay this all on the backs of our military. >> officials maintain that it is needed, but could our country's security be compromised? >> all this may sound familiar. mitt romney made the same arguments during his presidential campaign slamming president obama's position on the trail and in debates as well. >> this in my view is the highest responsibility of the president of the united states, which is to maintain the safety of the american people. and i will not cut our military budget by $1 trillion, which is the combination of the budget cuts that the president has as well as a sequestration cuts. that in my view is making our future less certain and less secure. >> i think governor romney maybe hasn't spent enough time looking at how our military works. you mentioned the navy, for example. we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. well, governor, we also have
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fewer horses and bayonets. because the nature of our military has changed. we have these things called aircraft carriers where planes land on them. we have these ships that go under water, nuclear submarines. so the question is not a game of battleship where we're counting ships, it's what are our capabilities. >> so the question is what's really going on. what do the numbers actually show? cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is here with the true politics. let's cut through the noise, the politics and spin. what are we talking about in terms of cuts to the military? break it down. >> reporter: you look at the numbers. the current budget is basically halfway between what the pentagon wanted and the more draconian cuts that came during sequestration. the real headline number is reducing the size of the army from a peak during those two wars in afghanistan and iraq from 570,000 to 450,000. you're cutting a 45-year-old attack jet, the warthog, designed to attack soviet attacks. also cutting benefits such as housing allowances for soldiers, subsidies to stores on military
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bases. some of these are politically insensitive things. but as always the military is trying to make a balance of priorities with the numbers that they've been given. >> so in terms of the cuts, obviously the things like housing allowance, that's going to affect the livelihood, the lifestyle of soldiers which is obviously an incredibly important thing and marines and sailors and others. in terms of the danger, could these cuts endanger americans both at home and abroad? is there truth to that? >> reporter: this is the question. i've talked to senior military officials who question the cuts. but certainly in less caustic terms than the vice president. i spoke to one senior official in the army who was uncomfortable with a fighting force of 450,000. wanted a figure closer to 480,000. that's not a dramatic difference but they talk about challenges to readiness and training, whole debate about whether you can fight two wars simultaneously or fight won, and hold the other to win that one. as for safety, though, when you speak to administration officials they push back very hard. listen to defense secretary chuck hagel today how he pushed
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back on this question. >> i as secretary of defense couldn't recommend to the president any option nor would any president make a decision to send anyone to war if there was any doubt that our men and women were not ready. we would fail you, we would fail our country. i can't do that. i won't do that. >> but this does make fighting two wars simultaneously very very difficult, if not impossible, right? >> reporter: here's what the administration will say. their argument is this is the first budget in more than a decade with the country not on a war footing, right? where we pulled out of iraq, we were drawing down dramatically in afghanistan. and that requires a less giant military. but for sure it's got to affect capability over time. i mean, the other big challenge that the military has is the same challenge that every government institution and company has, it's got an aging personnel and that's costly.
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as someone in the army told me today, 43% of the military budget goes to personnel. by 2020 without changes it will be 68%. that's a lot of retiring, aging, injured soldiers and marines and sailors. and what they'll say is listen we got to find some space in there. we have to cut both sides, right? because otherwise the military will have to cut even more capability. they're struggling with this. they know it's going to change their capability. but i can't say honestly i've talked to any military official who tells me that my life or your life is going to be in danger as a result of this. but they do say less capability. the question is how much less. this is really the start of a budget debate. this is really an opening gambit in a battle here. so we'll see those numbers change over time. >> the other question does it put the lives of our troops in greater jeopardy if they're no longer have the same kind of backup, same kind of support structure that they have over the last ten years or so. and again that's part of the argument. >> absolutely. no question. that's where folks like chuck
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hagel will say there's no way we're going to endanger the lives of troops, equipment, force protection, that kind of thing overseas. >> appreciate the update. just ahead, a little boy's battle will to recover from the mysterious illness that's pair paralyzing some kids in california. plus a new twist in the amanda knox case. [ tires screech ] [ car alarm chirps ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned mercedes-benz for the next new owner. [ car alarm chirps ] hurry in to the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. visit today for exceptional offers. ♪ you want a way to help minimize blood sugar spikes. support heart health. and your immune system. now there's new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. [ male announcer ] new glucerna advance.
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a polio-like illness has infected as many as 20 kids in california all within the last 18 months. five confirmed cases were vaccinated against polio. the illness causes weakness in limbs. it's left some kids paralyzed. one family has taken their story public to try to get the word out and help others. cnn's stephanie elam joins me now. how did this all get started? >> reporter: anderson, it all started very quickly in september of 2012. both this little boy who was eight years old at the time and his older brother got sick with a respiratory infection. it seemed like a regular cold they thought. but it was different. take a listen to what they had to say. >> this happened on friday when he came back from school. thursday night he went for karate, no problem. symptoms before that, just the flu and everything. coming back friday saying he couldn't raise the arm. he had a little bit of this. saturday he lost everything. that's when he got -- we took him to the hospital.
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>> reporter: and right after that they immediately took him to the hospital. he was in the icu for several days. they were trying to figure out what was wrong. they found out there was some inflammation around his spinal cord. but it was a very very quick turn of events. a very active boy playing sports when this all happened, anderson. >> his whole left arm was paralyzed. parents say he's making progress. how has he done that? >> reporter: his parents believe they have been really progressive on attacking this right away. by doing that this means a lot of physical therapy. so they are busy. he is constantly working on it. take a listen. >> what do you do during those three to four hours? >> i do a lot of fine motor skills. i go into the water every day. i work on the floor trying to lift up and down. >> what do you do in the water? >> since most of the gravity is taken off i try to get lift like from down all the way up.
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and from side. and i go with the physical therapist like three times a week. and that's what i do for about an hour. >> reporter: and that is really remarkable. because he could not move his arm at all from his shoulder to his fingertips. his parents saying it really started in his shoulders, went down to the fingertips then working its way back coming back and getting better. that's what's giving them hope. >> brave little boy. this illness has only hit the news the last couple of days. this family has been dealing with this for more than a year? >> reporter: for more than a year. talking about september 2012. the thing about it is they didn't really get this diagnosis it was probably this mystery illness until recently because before they thought it was an autoimmune illness which they now believe it is not. but what they are really concerned about is that the message out in the media for the last couple of days is that there is no hope. and they say they have hope and that's what's important to them. >> all right, stephanie, appreciate the update. thanks very much. joining me now is chief medical
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correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. you heard the boy describe what happened to him. are those symptoms common for the kids who seem to have this polio-like illness? >> well, it's worth pointing out that the vast majority of people who get an infection like this don't develop any symptoms at all. they don't develop any weakness or any of the sort of cold-like symptoms you just heard described there. but a small percentage do get this sort of weakness. and it usually comes on pretty suddenly. it can be a single limb at a time or much more systemic, much more the whole body. what is interesting to see, what stephanie just mentioned there as well, even with polio there were certain groups of people who did get better. they improved over time. it's been about a year and a half now since some of the first cases. see how that goes over the next several months, a year or so. see if there's gradual, continued improvement. >> what could this be? i know two of the patients have tested positive for entero virus 68? >> that's right.
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so two of the patients who got to the hospital pretty early got tested early did find this virus. this is the type of virus, polio is caused by a type of virus. they're very similar viruses. they come from a similar family of viruses. what happens with this type of virus is that it gets into the body and then in particularly severe cases it can start to surround the spinal cord and cause the symptoms again that you just heard there. again, it's rare. there's not concern that it's spreading from person-to-person. we've been following this for 18 months. it doesn't seem to be going within families, even, so the idea it's contagious doesn't seem to be there. but it does seem to be some sort of virus. they've only been able to find anytime two patients so far. >> and there's no vaccine for this kind of virus. what kind of treatments are there? >> there's not a vaccine. there's a vaccine for polio as you know but not for this particular virus. if it was more common, more cases they may develop a vaccine for it. as far as treatments go, unlike
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a bacterial infection for which you can take an antibiotic there isn't a specific anti-viral. if they've developed the upper respiratory cold-like symptoms you treat them for that. if they develop weakness you do the physical therapy as you just heard there. you can get some pretty good results. it takes time. sometimes the weakness will come and go, but the physical therapy can help in certain situations. >> obviously i don't want to freak out parents. what's the message for parents on this? what should they watch out for? >> it's interesting. part of the reason this got back in the news again this is going to be presented at a conference. one of the things they're trying to do is first of all get a message to doctors and parents that if you've seen something like this in your own community away from california, go to the hospital, get it checked out. maybe you'll find this particular virus and be able to start confirming these cases. but i think for other parents out there, if your child seems
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to have weakness that's just unusual, unexpected, one girl they were describing had weakness of her hand grip. that sort of thing you need to go get that checked out. you wouldn't blow that sort of thing off any way but certainly not in this case. >> sanjay, thanks. up next tonight amanda knox's ex-boyfriend and co-defendant has he started doubting her innocence or trying to help his own case in italy? also suspicions the legendary ali-liston heavyweight bout might have been rigged. details ahead. hey guys! sorry we're late. did you run into traffic?
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amanda knox and her former boyfriend were convicted of murder. prosecutors said it was a night of sex gone wrong. set free in 2011 after an appeals judge determined the evidence was questionable. the couple has always presented a united front. but now as they face a new trial, sollecito says he does have lingering questions about knox's behavior. deborah feyerick reports. >> reporter: february 11, 2014, weeks after an italian court found her guilty for a second time.
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amanda knox held a sign in italian saying "we are innocent." all along, knox's boyfriend at the time rafael sollecito, has defended amandi saying neither had anything to do with the death of meredith kerr mucher. but in a recent interview on ac 360 he had this to say. >> there's nothing against me, and nothing very strong against amanda. and in my case, i really did nothing wrong. and i don't want to pay for someone else's behavior. >> reporter: and now a new interview on italian tv where sollecito admits he has questions about knox's behavior the morning kircher was found stabbed to death in the apartment the two girls shared. he and knox had spent the night together at his apartment. knox left to shower at home. when she returned, sollecito now
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says she appeared very agitated, telling him it appeared someone had broken into the apartment and also that she had found blood in the bathroom. rather than call police, knox showered and went back to her boyfriend's. sollecito in that interview on italian tv and played on nbc news now suggests it was odd. >> translator: certainly i asked her questions. why did you take a shower? why did she spend so much time there? the reporter later asks, what answers do you give yourself? and sollecito responds, i don't have answers. >> reporter: at the time, the two had been dating about a week. amanda knox is downplaying any suggestion her ex-boyfriend is distancing himself from her. she posted on her blog a recent e-mail exchange received from sollecito where he writes quote i don't want to be punished for nor have to continue to justify those things that regard you and not me. obviously the evidence demonstrates both of our innocence, but it seems that for
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the judges and the people this objectivity is of no importance. knox describes sollecito as a scapegoat used by italian prosecutors. quote the only reason he's been dragged into this is because he happens to be my alibi. also quote he is collateral damage in the unreasonable, irresponsible and unrelenting scapegoating of the prosecution's grotesque caricature that is foxy knoxy. late today, sollecito's attorney gave us this statement. saying "it's imperative that the italian courts consider raffaella's case separate from amanda's case. by necessity he has to distance himself and his case from amanda and her case. the facts and evidence with regard to each of them is entirely different. sollecito and knox are both appealing the new convictions which carry sentences of 25 and 28 years respectively. another man, drifter and drug dealer rudy gaday from the ivory coast, is currently serving 16
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years for killing kircher. he was tried separately. he admitted having sex with the young woman but said someone else killed her while he was in the bathroom. the italian supreme court will hear the case in early 2014. deborah feyerick, cnn news. lots more happening tonight. susan hendricks has a 360 bulletin. drug kingpin jauquin guzman will face charges in mexico before any possibility of extradition to the united states. that's according to mexico's ambassador to the u.s. the boss of the sinaloa cartel was captured in a raid on saturday. a south african judge ruled that cameras will be allowed in the murder trial of oscar pistorius which begins next week. he's accused of murdering his girlfriend just over a year ago. was the victory by cassius clay now known as muhammad ali over sonny liston really the
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